From: David@holodeck.demon.co.uk (David Somen) What follows is a short transcript of a UK Radio 1 Nicky Campbell show, transmitted on Monday 21st March 1995. I unfortunately missed most of the interview so I would ask anyone who may have listened in to upload any information they remember to this group. _________________________________________________________________ [Key] NC = Nicky Campbell (Radio show host) GS = Graham Shepard (Former British Airways pilot) NC "Back now to British Airways pilots & UFOs. Graham Shepard former British Airways pilot talking to me this afternoon. Its been really interesting hearing about these encounters with UFOs. There have been others, you've been involved in another, briefly what happened." GS "Yes we were returning from Gibraltar in the evening March 1967, and right ahead of us we sighted a brilliant light which was double the - triple the magnitude of Sirius at its best, and we tried to identify it on the star chart. While we were doing so the light started moving across the sky ahead of us and was changing colour, blues & greens & reds, very iridescent colours & then started airobatting in the sky at phenomenal speeds." NC "Airobatting?" GS "Figures of eight, it was just zipping around in the sky. It was flying figures of eight & loops. Accelerations that were quite beyond humans." NC "It came from the planet show-off." GS "It was putting on a show, it really was & then from nowhere another one joined it. There were two of them. They went on doing this for about five minutes, drifting away out over the bay of Biscay & it was a brilliantly clear night so there was no mistaking." NC "Confirmed by radar?" GS "We asked Bordeaux radar, military radar at that time if they had any traffic and they confirmed they had traffic ten miles to the west of us which by that time is exactly where they were." NC "And of course you have to make application to be able to do that don't you, official application to notify the aviation authorities that we are going to be ten miles to the west of this British European airways aircraft. It all has to be done through official channels." GS "Of course." NC "There was one in Manchester recently wasn`t there. There was another incident, you wern`t involved but you know all about it. Very quickly what happened there." GS "Yes this was a very close approach by a UFO and January 6th it was a 737 returning to Manchester and the crew reported it, they actually went into official print. So this now is in the public domain, not only the investigation but the conclusions of that investigation by the Joint Amiss Working group will have to be made public. My main concern is the safety aspect & quite honestly I think it should be a public concern at the safety aspect of these close approaches has never ever been addressed. Its the instinctive reactions of the pilots who have no briefing, no background, no information. I have collected a number of reports now totalling ten very good reports of evasive action being taken by pilots with injuries being caused to passengers and to cabin crew & aeroplanes having to land at midpoint because they have taken evasive action with a close approach of a UFO." NC "So maybe the cover up or the semi cover up by the airlines is not helpful at all." GS "Its not helpful and I think there should be a mature and informed discussion about the whole thing and the safety implications of pilot reaction to a close approach of these things. _________________________________________________________________ More info on the British Airlines Sighting is HERE